Cxemcast 015 – Borys

01. Even Tuell - Tailorboy (Out To Lunch)
02. VC-118A - Propulse (Tabernacle)
03. Mix Mup - Sequoflec (The Trilogy Tapes)
04. Geena - ICO (Antinote)
05. MOME - Control (Tevo Howard Remix) (Fragil Musique)
06. Antenna - In August (Unreleased)
07. Unbroken Dub - Selfbreak (Wicked Bass forthcoming)
08. Even Tuell - ... (Workshop 004)
09. Elbee Bad - Gonna Be A Great Night !! (POD's Tribal Tech-House Remixx) (LaRhon Rec)
10. DJ Slip - Over Unity EP (Missile)
11. Steve Poindexter - Cats (L.A. Club Resource)
12. Deviere - SYMP (Mathematics)
13. Ever Vivid - Lost Love (Open Mind Recordings)
14. Baby Ford & The Ifach Collective - On The Floor (Klang Electronik)
15. Sleeparchive - Hospital 04 (Sleeparchive)
16. Chevel - Oberdan Mall (Non Series)
17. Exos - Attfalt (Thule Records)
18. Infiniti - Think Quick (Remodeled By Moritz von Oswald)

The first thing I would like to ask you is how did your last visit to St. Petersburg’s club Mosaique go? How does it differ from Kyiv? Are there any interesting trends in the city?

It was very cool! We played there together with Nazar and both of us were happy. Mosaique is a great club where everything is done as it should be: sound, light, line-ups. Moreover, the room itself is stunning, you can’t take an eye of it. Of course, there is difference with Kyiv: St. Petersburg crowd hangs out more actively - and it was always like that. A lot of people go out, there are many interesting bars and clubs, and, in general, hell a lot cool stuff is happening there. Particularly in music: I was surprised to see a decent stack of records from the local guys in "Baza" vinyl store. Music there is quite different, but the fact is that St. Petersburg has its music scene, which is growing.

What do you think, when will a stack of vinyl from Ukrainian artists appear there? What is the problem of our guys - a lack of money, scene, or talent?

Money has nothing to do with scene – that’s for sure. Our guys certainly have talent as well as potential. I know many of our young musicians, who work not even ‘in the desk’, but just for their own pleasure. After a failure of promotional mailing to big (if this word is appropriate for electronic music) labels, the tracks are simply deleted after a year – people get fed up with it. I have never even observed such a banal situation of passing a flash memory with music to a label owner / DJ, who came to Kyiv to play. Nevertheless, in general, there are such artists as Vakula, SE62, Etapp Kyle, Woo York, who we can be proud of. There could more of these guys… and I’m sure there will be.

What can you say about the ‘tape’ wave? Would it work out in Ukraine?

Hmm... As a DJ, I'm not sure what to do with tapes. Publishing dance music on tape is a dead end, for noise, ambient, etc. - it's a cool thing. In Ukraine, such a label is unlikely to be noticed and in the world – why not. Depending on the music, in the first place.

Speaking of Ukrainian labels: wouldn’t you like to open your own? Considering your experience it should turn out well…

I’ve heard from some friends that they were going to open their record labels the past year a lot - the idea is good, but you need to understand what to publish. Let's say, material for the first 3-5 releases. The plan for the following 5. You need to have an idea what kind of music and sound to publish. And how to sell it all. It seems to me that a release on a foreign label is very good for Ukrainian artist. This is, incidentally, an excellent filter for quality production. Figuratively speaking, if your tracks have been approved by labels of, let’s say, Firecracker level - it means you’re doing well. If you weren’t signed – continue to work.

I can’t help but ask about your duo with Slava - "Zhiguli”: who was responsible for what, how it evolved and, well, why doesn’t it exist any more?

We were equally responsible for the craziness of the parties. If we talk about development – I have to mention Xlib club - if it didn’t exist, there wouldn’t be any of these parties and our company. It’s quite clear why we don’t play together now - considering the fact that we played together for about 10 years and gradually our tastes in music became more and more different. DJing only back to back is a bit boring: standing and waiting until the partner will pick up and compile the next track. But in general, it was a great time. Just yesterday I revised a video from Xlib parties - very cool.

Now, you can often be spotted b2b with Nazar.

I do not know anyone else with who we so much common music tastes. It is very easy to play with Nazar - he is the closest in spirit and sound DJ in Kyiv for me.

Sometimes you are referred to as ‘the patron of dirty sound". Did this hype get to Kyiv?

Regarding the dirty sound – I still like to put something from Lies, Trilogy Tapes or Lobster Theremin. But in general, this is an exaggeration, of course. In comparison to modern techno, any Chicago record from the 80's that I always take with me -is a dirty sound. In Kyiv, incidentally, there was no such hype really. However, in the world, yes, there was. It’s a bit frustrating to see the wholesale lo-fi sound craze in house and techno for the last year - this sound is everywhere now, but the amount of steep tracks hasn’t grown.

Do you mean imitation of 4 Club Use Only?

Kind of... I mean Florian Kupfer and company.

It is something similar to the punk culture, even Ron emphasizes his background all the time...

I became interested in electronic music since childhood, I had no punk rock phase. At first it was something like eurodance and just common trash from cassette layouts, then – records of night airs with electronic music at "Europa Plus", "Radio Active", "Super Nova" - in short, quite usual story. At that time, when I started listening to house music, it was difficult to hear something except disco-house. Acquaintance with Sergei Lapko aka Dj Lapot’, probably in 1999, and later with Oleg Sokolov helped me a lot: I could listen to different music, borrow DJ Magazine (it is difficult to convey how important it was for me). Now it’s impossible to imagine. But then! DJs from London came to Sergei from time to time and brought a bag with the new records, played a set and sometimes sold everything, including the bag, to him and his fellow DJs. The most unsaleable goods - records with deep house and other ‘not Kyiv’ music were just laying around and then got to me somehow. I still keep some cool records from that time - Nuphonic, Force Tracks, Derrick Carter...

In recent years, DJ has lost an important status as an ‘educator’. It seems that everyone plays now, but there are still few good DJs.

I think this is normal. All the excess will be eliminated over time.

If it’s not a secret, which record are you going to put for sure at Схема?

This one! Steve Poindexter - State Of Shock (

Interviewed by Bohdan Konakov.